[time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

Dana Whitlow k8yumdoober at gmail.com
Mon Jan 18 11:29:57 UTC 2021


BTW, I did purchase my 10MHz-"leaky" TinySA through R & L.  Had I not had
the clue that R & L was a reliable source, I would never have ordered one ot
these things at all.

Tom, I don't walk around- I pedal around on a recumbent trike.

Dana


On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 5:20 AM Bill Notfaded <notfaded1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Knock offs is part of the reason I posted the main US distributer earlier.
> The software is basically open source so anyone could theoretically make
> one.  There's only one original manufacturer though.  R&L Electronics is
> the only sanctioned US distributer I'm aware of.  Also they have the best
> price in US you can find for obvious reasons.  FWIW I don't have spurs at
> 10MHz.
>
> Bill in AZ
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 5:35 PM Dana Whitlow <k8yumdoober at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > I remember seeing the list of checks to make regarding knockoff clones,
> > and even remember a few of them: to wit:
> >
> > 1. Comes in molded packaging, not poly foam.  Check!
> > 2. Has the internal shielding.  Check!
> > 3. Passes all the self tests, including 7 & 8.  Check!
> >
> > I had high hopes of moving the birdie off 10 MHz by changing the IF
> > frequency
> > setting, but this did no good.  I'd sure like to see a detailed block
> > diagram, but
> > do not know where to look.
> >
> > I also tried turning on the "spur eliminator", which did help by several
> > dB, but
> > my birdie still sits a few dB able the displayed noise floor in the
> > narrowest
> > available resolution BW of ~ 3 kHz.
> >
> > So, for the moment, I'm out of ideas.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dana
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 5:21 PM Dan Kemppainen <dan at irtelemetrics.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dana,
> > >
> > > Just an FYI. Apparently, there are knockoff clone copies of the TinySA
> > > out there. (Yes, making a knockoff clone of a $50 spectrum analyzer is
> a
> > > thing, go figure!)
> > >
> > > Apparently, these have substandard performance, and a host of
> > > issues/concerns. I ran into this on the TinySA web site. They have some
> > > hints on how to detect if you have a clone or not. Might be worth
> > > looking into to see if you have a sub-par copy.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/16/2021 12:00 PM, time-nuts-request at lists.febo.com wrote:
> > > > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 05:45:19 -0600
> > > > From: Dana Whitlow<k8yumdoober at gmail.com>
> > > > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> > > >       <time-nuts at lists.febo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA
> > > > Message-ID:
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> > > >
> > > > Another data point:  My newly-received TinySA has a big birdie at 10
> > MHz,
> > > > which is a
> > > > disappointment since I had hoped to use the unit as a sniffer to
> track
> > > down
> > > > leaks in my
> > > > 10 MHz distribution system.  This birdie in the TinySA persists even
> > when
> > > > nothing is
> > > > connected to the input and does not vary in amplitude when I move
> > around
> > > > the house,
> > > > or with time while I'm sitting still with the unit.
> > > >
> > > > I, too, received no manual.
> > > >
> > > > Dana
> > >
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