[time-nuts] Re: Testing replacement lamps for HP5065A

Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffiths at xtra.co.nz
Mon Sep 19 03:04:35 UTC 2022


Usually a separate Rb87 gas cell is required to stabilise the laser wavelength: http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1219.pdf

Bruce
> On 19/09/2022 14:49 Bruce Griffiths via time-nuts <time-nuts at lists.febo.com> wrote:
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> Some anamorphic beam shaping via a prism or equivalent may be required for efficient use of the laser output.
> The datasheet indicates that they are not truly longitudinal single mode except at a particular junction temperature which varies from one chip to the next.
> Using some external feedback from an external cavity may be useful in stabilising operation on a single mode without mode jumps. Typical mode spacing appears to be somewhere around 0.5nm or so.
> Random mode jumping to a wavelength 0.5nm or so from the desired wavelength will likely impact operation as a pump diode. Careful selection of laser diode, its temperature and excitation current will be required for successful operation.
> 
> Bruce
> > On 19/09/2022 03:05 Stephen C. Menasian via time-nuts <time-nuts at lists.febo.com> wrote:
> > 
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> > As a bit of background - When I was an undergraduate, I worked with a
> > group using optically pumped 87Rb to orient hydrogen via spin exchange to
> > measure the hydrogen hyperfine frequency. At that time, our Rb lamps were
> > RF excited 1 cm dia spherical bulbs. There was a bit of black magic in
> > the choice and type of noble gas used to maintain the discharge. Rb vapor
> > pressure was controlled by bulb temperature. I don't believe there was
> > any teflon coating in the lamps; teflon coating was used, however, in the
> > optical pumping cell to reduce collisional disorientation and consequent
> > broadening. At that time we used circular polarizers to achieve the
> > pumping effect. I note that the SRS Rb standard uses intensity pumping,
> > which I consider cruder.
> > 
> > I note that Laser diodes in the correct wavelength range are available
> > for under $20.00 (Rohm RLD78NZM5 and similar) from Digikey and Mouser.
> > These have 10 mW optical single mode output. Most laser diodes are easily
> > tuned over a small range; the well defined beam and its polarization
> > characteristics could provide a significant advantage over a gas
> > discharge lamp. Intensity stabilization would probably be necessary to
> > achieve the low noise level necessary for optical pumping. These laser
> > diodes include an integrated photodetector to facilitate stabilization.
> > 
> > Anyway, it might be worth looking into them as lamp replacements.
> > 
> > Stephen Menasian
> > 
> > On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 22:59:22 +0200
> > Ke-Fong Lin via time-nuts <time-nuts at lists.febo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Corby,
> > > 
> > > It seems that all the lamps tested are from used rubidium standards.
> > > Is it possible to buy "off the shelf" rubidium lamps somewhere?
> > > Or is it so "specialized" that's only way to obtain them?
> > > Thank  you.
> > > 
> > > Best regards
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:53 PM Corby Dawson via time-nuts
> > > <time-nuts at lists.febo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Here are details on some tests I ran on replacement lamps for the
> > > > HP5065A.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
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