[time-nuts] Re: Symmetricom XLi question

Tue Sep 27 13:53:29 UTC 2022

Hi,

I now have two 87-8028-2 boards, both with Furino GT-8031H on them, both 
which get stuck for days UNLOCKED, in state "TRAIM ACTIVE". I have ordered 
Jackson Labs M12Ms to upgrade them.

>F119 b1 s
F119 B1:
     GPS PART NUMBER 87-8028-02
     SOFTWARE 230-01510-04v1.20
     FPGA 184-8024v1
     GPS STATUS UNLOCKED
     GPS ANTENNA OK
     GPS ACQUISITION STATE: TRAIM ACTIVE

This might mean more XLi units showing up, and cheaper, on e-bay, if
these GPS units have hit some other rollover and no longer work at all.

Info in this article was helpful, as it includes instructions for 
displaying the web usernames and passwords if a prior owner changes them:
   https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/symmetricom-xli-license-hack/

Mark

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 04:48:52PM -0500, Steve Krull via time-nuts wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> My XL took a good 24 hours to lock after it had been unpowered for who knows how long and moved half way across the country. It also has the 87-8028-2 gps receiver and was not affected by the week 1024 rollover. 
> Itâ€™s a shame if the rb is dead; as many have said thereâ€™s no information on them.
> 
> If anyone has one to let go of, I am looking for an 87-8028-2 gps receiver for an XLi SAASM that I got without the receiver. A list member offered me one pre-pandemic but he  then seems to have gone silent. 
> 
> Steve K.
> 
> > On Sep 21, 2022, at 1:34 PM, Mark G Thomas via time-nuts <time-nuts at lists.febo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > ï»¿Hi,
> > 
> > I just received an XLi from e-bay. It unexpectedly has the Rubidium standard, in addition to the GPS receiver 87-8028-2.
> > 
> > I have not yet determined if my 87-8028-2 is affected by the week 1024 rollover bug. After 12 hours it has finally transitioned from "SITE SURVEY" to "TRAIM ACTIVE", but still not GPS locked.
> > 
> > Claude -- which exact Jackson Labs part did you use?
> > 
> > Unfortunately the X72 RUBIDIUM OSC is in FAULT state.
> > 
> > I am interested in any recommendations about what to do about the failed rubidium. My next steps will be to check supply voltages and pull out the 87-8028-2 to see which GPS module it has, but I was hoping it would get GPS lock before I shut it down again.
> > 
> > >F18
> > F18 BOOTLOADER  192-8000
> >     SOFTWARE    192-8001
> >     FILE SYSTEM 192-8002V2-4
> >     PROJ REV #  2-4
> >     FPGA #      184-8000V65
> > 
> > >F72
> > F72 CLOCK PLL              LOCKED
> >     CLOCK STATUS           UNLOCKED    GPS PRI
> >     PRIMARY POWER SUPPLY   OK
> >     SECONDARY POWER SUPPLY OK
> >     RUBIDIUM OSC           FAULT
> > 
> > >F108
> > F108 OSCILLATOR CONFIG RUBIDIUM
> > 
> > >f60 b1 tracked
> > F60 B1 prn2 good tracked -153dBW
> > F60 B1 prn5 good tracked -154dBW
> > F60 B1 prn6 good tracked -155dBW
> > F60 B1 prn9 good tracked -157dBW
> > F60 B1 prn11 good tracked -154dBW
> > F60 B1 prn12 good tracked -154dBW
> > F60 B1 prn13 good tracked -196dBW
> > F60 B1 prn19 good tracked -162dBW
> > F60 B1 prn20 good tracked -154dBW
> > F60 B1 prn25 good tracked -156dBW
> > F60 B1 prn29 good tracked -156dBW
> > 
> > >f60 b1 current
> > F60 B1 prn2 good current -154dBW
> > F60 B1 prn5 good current -154dBW
> > F60 B1 prn6 good current -155dBW
> > F60 B1 prn9 good current -158dBW
> > F60 B1 prn11 good current -153dBW
> > F60 B1 prn12 good current -155dBW
> > F60 B1 prn20 good current -154dBW
> > F60 B1 prn25 good current -157dBW
> > F60 B1 prn29 good current -156dBW
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> >> On 11/25/21 5:45 PM, va2hdd at ebox.net wrote:
> >>  
> >> Hi Martin.
> >> 
> >> In my XLi the GPS is in option bay 1.
> >> 
> >> As far as I know you can put it in any free option bay, you will
> >> configure it in software at start up.
> >> 
> >> In my case I had to replace the GPS receiver that was on the 87-8028-2
> >> option card, there was a week 1024 rollover bug issue on it.
> >> 
> >> Personally I would take the time to test it with an antenna, as the late
> >> production units have a more recent GPS receiver card that has no
> >> rollover bug.
> >> 
> >> In my case I used the Jackson Labs replacement board, and I warmly
> >> recommend it, it works flawlessly.
> >> 
> >> Have fun with your XLi !
> >> 
> >> Claude VA2 HDD
> >> 
> >>> On 2021-11-25 16:41, Martin Flynn wrote:
> >>> Picked up a Symmetricom XLi with two A/C supplies and two empty slots.
> >>> 
> >>> Question #1
> >>> Is there a preference which of the two empty slots the GPS C/A
> >>> Receiver (87-8028-2) is placed in?
> >>> 
> >>> Question #2
> >>> 
> >>> Anyone have slot covers sitting around?
> >>> 
> >>> Martin
> > 
> > -- 
> > Mark G Thomas <Mark at Misty.com>, KC3DRE
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Mark G. Thomas <Mark at Misty.com>, KC3DRE